UFC Countdown takes you behind the scenes before UFC 179 as three Brazilians brace to do battle. In this segment, undefeated lightweight prospect Diego Ferreira prepares to face fellow upstart Beneil Dariush.
UFC Countdown takes you behind the scenes before UFC 179 as three Brazilians brace to do battle. In this segment, undefeated lightweight prospect Diego Ferreira prepares to face fellow upstart Beneil Dariush.
So the topic came about in another thread about how good the Strikeforce guys have been in the UFC since the merger in early 2013. For statistics’ sake, here is how each fighter has done in the UFC at each weight class. I’m not including the fighters from the women’s bantamweight division, since it was also new at the same time.
Note: If a fighter is now in a different weight class, his name will be highlighted in italics. If a fighter is no longer with the UFC, his name will be struck through.
Daniel Cormier (2-0), Had Top 5 Ranking in HW before moving down
Josh Barnett (1-1), Current #6 in HW Rankings
Guto Inocente (0-1)
Daniel Cormier (2-0), Current #2 in LHW Rankings, Will Challenge for LHW Title
Ovince St. Preux (4-0), Current #10 in LHW Rankings
Gegard Mousasi (1-0), Had Top 10 Ranking in LHW before moving down
Rafael Cavalcante (1-2), Current #12 in LHW Rankings
Gian Villante (2-2)
Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza (3-0), Current #4 in MW Rankings
Luke Rockhold (2-1), Current #5 in MW Rankings
Tim Kennedy (3-0), Current #6 in MW Rankings
Gegard Mousasi (1-1), Current #7 in MW Rankings
Yoel Romero (4-0), Current #11 in MW Rankings
Derek Brunson (2-1)
Trevor Smith (2-2)
Nate Marquardt (1-0)
Lorenz Larkin (1-3)
Roger Gracie (0-1), CONTRACT NOT RENEWED
Anthony Smith (0-1), CUT
Bristol Marunde (0-2), CUT
Robbie Lawler (5-1), Current #1 in WW Rankings, Challenged for WW Title, Will Likely Challenge for WW Title
Tyron Woodley (3-2), Current #4 in WW Rankings
Tarec Saffiedine (1-0), Current #10 in WW Rankings
Adlan Amagov (2-0)
K.J. Noons (1-0)
Nate Marquardt (0-2)
Bobby Voelker (0-4)
Jason High (2-2), CUT due to pushing a ref
Gilbert Melendez (1-1), Current #2 in WW Rankings, Challenged for LW Title, Will Challenge for LW Title
Josh Thomson (1-2), Current #6 in LW Rankings, Was Going to Challenge for LW Title
Bobby Green (4-0), Current #7 in LW Rankings
Jorge Masvidal (4-1), Current #14 in LW Rankings
Adriano Martins (2-1)
K.J. Noons (1-1)
Isaac Vallie-Flagg (1-2)
Roger Bowling (0-2, 1 NC)
Yancy Medeiros (0-2, 1 NC)
Pat Healy (0-4, 1 NC), CUT
Ryan Couture (0-2), CUT
Caros Fodor (0-1), CUT
Mizuto Hirota (0-2), CUT
Kurt Holobaugh (0-1), CUT
Overall record of Strikeforce fighters since joining the UFC: 60 wins, 51 losses, 3 No Contests.
That record is shared between 38 fighters.
2 of these fighters have fought in title matches (Gilbert Melendez and Robbie Lawler)
The same 2 have also received title shots twice (technically hasn’t been officially confirmed for Lawler, I know)
4 fighters have received title shots (Melendez, Lawler, Daniel Cormier, and Josh Thomson; unfortunately Thomson didn’t end up getting his when Anthony Pettis got injured)
8 fighters are still undefeated in their UFC tenures so far; these fighters are responsible for nearly half of the Strikeforce fighters’ win total, with a combined record of 25 wins and 0 losses (Cormier, St. Preux, Jacare, Kennedy, Romero, Saffiedine, Amagov, Green)
Of the undefeated fighters, Cormier, St. Preux, Romero, and Green all lead the way with the best records (4-0), Jacare and Kennedy are next (3-0), while Amagov and Saffiedine are still 2-0 and 1-0 respectively.
The ex-Strikeforce fighter with the most wins since the merge is Robbie Lawler, with 5. He is also the most active fighter of the lot with 6 professional bouts.
Currently, sixteen fighters are numbered in the UFC official ranking system, which goes up to 15. Twelve are in the top 10, and six are in the top 5. Those six are: Daniel Cormier (#2 LHW), Jacare Souza (#4 MW), Luke Rockhold (#5 MW), Robbie Lawler (#1 WW), Tyron Woodley (#4 WW), and Gilbert Melendez (#2 WW).
No fighter has yet to win a UFC title.
Of these 38 fighters, only 16 have a winning record during their tenure in the UFC. 17 have a losing record, and 12 have failed to pick up a win at all.
These 12 winless fighters also make up almost half of the loss total for all ex-Strikeforce fighters (their overall record is 0 wins, 23 losses, and 3 NCs).
Of the 12 winless fighters, 8 have been cut. Remarkably, Bobby Voelker (0-4), Roger Bowling (0-2, 1 NC), and Yancy Medeiros (0-2, 1 NC), have managed to avoid the pink slip so far.
Since the merge, 9 fighters have been cut from the UFC. The total of these fighters records while they were in the promotion was 2 wins, 16 losses, and 1 NC.
The only cut fighter that won in the UFC is Jason High. He is also the only fighter cut that did not have a losing record (2-2). This is due to the reason he was cut: making aggressive physical contact with a ref.
We can tell that, at every weight class from LW to HW, the Strikeforce imports have made a significant impact in each division (well, maybe not so much for HW). Strikeforce fighters have fought for the title in LW and WW, the majority of contenders right now at MW are ex-Strikeforce (indeed, this division has definitely changed the most since the merge), and LHW got a much-needed injection of new talent with Cormier and OSP.
There have also been quite a few fighters that didn’t quite make it, but still, considering that Strikeforce was the #2 promotion before its dissolution, I would have to say that the majority of the fighters have punched above their weight
You can’t get a leg kick tko, you can only temporarily make an opponent move slower. So combined with the healing above, they are next to pointless.
Straight punches can only be done when stationary, so no darting around on the outside of hooks throwing straights.
There are no natural counters; you can’t step out of range and counter after an opponent misses, or when they are open at the beginning of an attack. The only way the game will register a hit as a counter is after parrying or dodging with the dodge move.
Intercepting opponent has no affect on their accuracy of attacks (so can’t for instance jab someone in the face and make their hook miss like in fight night).
It’s both too fast and too slow. The fighters seem to have infinite stamina and fight at 100 mph, but input lag means that attacks are queued like Fight Night Champion, which you can’t break out of. You can’t block quick enough after throwing an attack, and attacks don’t interupt an opponent’s attack, so you end up with just a sloppy brawl. Parry is also held down rather than being a twitch reaction, and only up or down, so no mixing up of directions throwing 2 left hooks instead of left right for instance.
No stopping an attack after it has been launched.
It takes almost no stamina to do special moves, so you can spam the most riddiculous, jumping, reverse, spinning, tornado, cartwheel, backflip, butterfly, wheel, bicycle, helicopter kicks with no penalty whatsoever like a spasticated Eddie Gordo at all times.
Most of these are unpunishable and can’t be interrupted, not even by leg or push kick.
You can’t take someone down when they have their back turned or are doing a crazy kick, so no countering reverse moves with shooting.
You can do reverse moves standing right next to an opponent (such as a spinning back kick, which would require space in real life, else you wouldn’t have room to get your foot there. Wouldn’t do anything at all and you’d probably fall over).
However, said moves (all moves) do verrry little damage. You can eat reverse turning kicks for breakfast. Special attacks, particularly kicks, should do way more damage, take way more stamina to do and be way more dangerous to attempt.
Sidestepping sometimes changes stance for no reason.
There is no sprawl. Takedowns are difficult to defend against: once an opponent has touched you, there’s nothing you can do about it.
Slams have a smaller window of time in which to defend against them than normal takedowns.
Can do a slam, transition or tornado kick at 0 stamina.
No ability to flatten out backmount.
Can’t catch kicks.
Can’t damage oponent by checking kicks.
You fall over if you kick someone on the ground.
Can’t move someone around the cage on the ground.
Transition from half guard top has no animation difference between going left and right, so choosing which direction to defend is a total gamble.
Ref stands you up in no time at all from the ground: you can be in side mount, even FULL mount and if there’s not much going on for about 8 seconds then you’ll get stood up. However, you can wall and stall for infinity.
The most basic, simple to do transition from guard puts you into FULL MOUNT!
From full mount, postured up, using hooks, undefended… it takes about 20+ clean hits to knock someone out. Totally lacking in oomph, character seems to possess strange pillow fists.
You can’t touch gloves at all, or taunt of your own accord.
If you hold halfway through a transition on the ground, the opponent can’t hit you (so you can repeat indefiniately until the ref stands you up).
Both top and bottom lose stamina no matter what happens on the ground, so can just keep spamming transitions.
If you get clinched, you can attempt a takedown and if successful take to floor, if fail get pushed out of clinch. So basically, you can’t be kept in clinch.
No standing submissions.
I was wrong in a previous post about rubber guard/crucafix positions not being in the game, you have to hold a special modifier to transition to those positions. However, when the more basic transition in those positions moves you straight into full mount, then what would be the point?
No moving head when on the floor in guard to dodge bombs, no grabbing wrists to stifle attack (could be a minor transition and set-up to armbar).
Chael failed a drug test, I know he defends himself saying these aren’t steriods, that they’re banned but not illegal (it takes a real politician to make that distinction) and that he did a test himself and found they were out of his system. It doesn’t matter he wasn’t being entirely truthful, he took a substance he knew was banned and thought he could get away with it. Chael has a history of this sort of behavior.
Chael failed a drug test at UFC 117 and was found with T/E ratio four times that of a normal man. Sonnen didn’t disclose this information officially to the commission (sound similar?) but he claimed that he had an unwritten agreement with Kieth Kizer that he was approved for TRT. Kieth Kizer responded that he had never spoken to Chael Sonnen in his life and it was a straight up fabrication. Kieth Kizer even confronted Chael Sonnen who tried to deflect questions and come up with even more lies and excuses such as it was his manager that talked to Kizer not him, he just mispoke, Kizer described the situation as a “strange story” and ridiculous explanation.
On top of this even his diagnosis of hypogonadism, the condition that requires him to be on TRT is questionable. An endocrinologist stated that his diagnosis if incomplete. Another doctor said it would be crazy for someone born with hypogonadism to be able to be an elite wrestler and the causes for his low testosterone is steriod abuse.
Chael also had some harsh words for Lance Armstrong saying
“Lance Armstrong did a number of things, and he gave himself cancer. He cheated, he did drugs, and he gave himself cancer.”
When confronted about these words, he lied, denying that it was him that said that.](http://www.mmaconvert.com/2010/08/05/chael-sonnen-tells-jim-rome-guy-with-hispanic-accent-made-lance-armstrong-comments/ )
Not to mention his charges for money laundering and mortgage fraud. When these were brought up in an interview Sonnen was denying that he was involved in mortage fraud and tried to deflect the question by asking the interviewer if he beat his wife.
Just thought you should know.
Weight cutting is dangerous, there’s a reason they weigh in the day before the fight; it gives them a chance to rehydrate. It’s crazy. Let’s call it what it is. It’s kind of cheating, but it’s cheating that everybody does. You’re allowing someone to pretend they’re 155 pounds. Motherfucker, you’re not 155 pounds! You look at Gleison Tibau and it’s like, ‘Dude, you are not a 155-pound fighter. You’re just not. I understand that you can get onto that scale and it can show 155 pounds, but that is for the briefest window possible.’ As soon as guys get off the scale, they suck on pedialyte, they drink coconut water and do whatever they can to get fluids back into their system, and they’re fucking dying.
I just think that bringing your body to a state where it’s almost dying just a day before you’re going to fight is fucking crazy. I like it when guys get within 5 pounds or so. I’ve talked to guys who are really intelligent about their cuts, and they get within 5 pounds. Here’s a perfect example: Thiago Alves. All throughout his career he’s had problems with weight cuts. He missed the cut for the Matt Hughes fight and came in looking fucking enormous when he fought Hughes, and a lot of people thought that was a real advantage. I mean, he looked like a goddamn gorilla! Like someone came in and shaved a gorilla. But if you saw him in his last fight, a really entertaining fight against Seth Baczynski, he was on weight the day before the fight. The day before the fight he was 170 pounds and he didn’t have to cut any weight. He looked a little smaller as far as his musculature goes, but he looked great. He didn’t look weak in any way, shape or form. His technique was fantastic, his gas was great and he came off a two-year layoff and fought a war with a very tough Seth Baczynski. He had a really entertaining fight and he had the endurance. He was healthy coming into that fight because he didn’t have to deplete himself and starve himself and all of that shit.
I just think that approach is a better approach. I really wish there could be some sort of an agreement with fighters where it’s just, ‘Goddammit, what the fuck do you weigh? You weigh 180 pounds right now? Is that what you weigh when you’re fit? Then you should fight at 180 pounds.’ This making weight thing drives me crazy. I understand that it’s important for championship fights, to define how big the fighters are so we have people competing against people who are the same size, but I think it should stop. I think it’s a dishonorable part of the sport, and I know that’s a very controversial stance to take, and I know that a lot of people may say that I’m ignorant for saying that. ‘Who are you? You’re the commentator. You’re the guy who is the supposed expert who is explaining MMA in the No. 1 organization in the world, and you think that weight cutting is cheating?’ Yeah, I do. I think it’s cheating that everybody does. It’s one of those situations where everybody has to cheat, because everybody else is cheating.
So for a guy like me to say that I think weight cutting is just cheating that everybody agrees to, I understand that it’s a very controversial thing for me to say, and I understand that a lot of people are going to get angry at it. But I really think that it’s something that we should look at, and we should look at it, and we should look at it from that perspective. I walk around and I weigh about 155 pounds. If I told someone that I really weigh 145 pounds, and they’re like, ‘Good, I weigh 145 pounds too, I’ll meet you here at this time and let’s grapple or fight or whatever.’ If I really do weigh 155 pounds, I’m going to have a 10-pound weight advantage over that person. So if I trick them into thinking that I weigh 155, and starve and dehydrate myself to prove it, and then when we actually meet I’m healthy and back up to 195 pounds, isn’t that cheating? Isn’t that lying? That’s what people are doing.
When people weigh in at 155 pounds and then balloon up to 175 pounds totally shredded and ripped with giant, full muscles … It’s crazy! What kind of game are we playing? Why are we playing that game? Well we’re playing that game because everybody is playing it. The weight cutting game is part of the whole MMA game now. It’s deeply entwined and integrated into the sport that you cannot compete against the best in the world unless you’re willing to starve yourself and deplete yourself, and I think it’s fucked.
I think it’s contrary to the very spirit of martial arts. The very spirit of elite level martial arts should be that you train as hard as you can, you watch your nutrition, you do not take performance-enhancing drugs that give you any sort of unfair advantage and you want to compete against someone who is your size. That’s what it should be all about. You don’t want to go in there and bully someone who is littler than you. You don’t want to go in there and hit someone who is 30 pounds lighter than you that you have some sort of ridiculous advantage over. That’s not in the spirit of elite-level martial arts. Elite martial arts should be people competing against people who are the same size as them. Sure there will be some variations. There will be a guy who is 170 pounds and is built like Hector Lombard, and another guy who is 170 pounds and is kind of doughy and soft and has a lot of body fat. Well, the Hector Lombard guy is always going to be stronger and faster. There are going to be variables, but at least we can minimize those variables if people agree to fight at whatever weight they actually are at.
If you want to fight at 170 pounds, figure out a way to get your body healthily down to 170 pounds. There are optimum weight classes for people. There are people who are carrying around too much body fat, and they would perform at a higher level if they could drop that body fat and get more fit. There are a lot of people who carry unnecessary muscle mass, which looks good if you’re powerlifting or bodybuilding, but the reality of MMA is a lot of that stuff just sort of gets in the way. There’s a point of diminishing returns, where too much musculature is just going to rob you of your performance, especially in the third, fourth and fifth rounds. It’s a huge factor when you see a really muscular guy.
We’ve commented on it on the broadcast a lot, sometimes to the point where muscular guys like Tyron Woodley have taken umbrage with it and get pissed off at me. It’s not that I’m not a Tyron Woodley fan, but if you look at Tyron Woodley and then at the other guys that are 170 pounds, and it’s clear that one of these things is not like the others. One guy has a significantly larger amount of muscle than other guys. It works great for him in certain ways, but in other ways you pay the price for that.
I think that if someone wants to compete at 170 pounds, they should fucking weigh 170 pounds. If someone wants to compete at 185 pounds, that should be what you weigh, and if you want to compete at that weight class, figure out how to get your body down to 185 pounds in a healthy way.
Those are bad odds. I wouldn’t touch Machida by KO at +650 (13.3%). Maybe if it was +1500 or better.
Consider that Machida’s won 8 of his 21 victories by KO (38%), then consider his odds of winning as a whole. Even if you give Machida 33% odds of winning, that’s still only a 12.5% chance of winning via KO based on prior performance, meaning +650 is (roughly) the break-even if Machida has a one-third chance of winning and has a similar probability of winning via KO as he has vs. previous opponents.
Every match has it’s intricacies and stylistic matchups, but in order for this bet to be sound, you have to justify either:
Personally I don’t see either of those happening. I don’t think he has a better chance of KO-ing Weidman than he did his previous opponents, and I give him a ~25% chance of winning.
19. Zak Cummings (+475) upsets Yan Cabral (-560)
18. Chan Sung Jung (+475) upsets Mark Hominick (-560)
17. Zoila Frausto Gurgel (+500) upsets Megumi Fujii (-800)
16. Tito Ortiz (+525) upsets Ryan Bader (-825)
15. Frankie Edgar (+550) upsets Tyson Griffin (-1000)
14. Joe Lauzon (+585) upsets Jens Pulver (-725)
13. Pat Curran (+600) upsets Roger Huerta (-1000)
12. Thiago Santos (+660) upsets Ronny Markes (-840)
11. Sergey Golyaev (+700) upsets Takanori Gomi (-1100)
10. Chad Griggs (+700) upsets Bobby Lashley (-1200)
9. Matt Serra (+700) upsets Georges St-Pierre (-1000)
8. Frankie Edgar (+725) upsets B.J. Penn (-1100)
7. Johnny Eduardo (+735) upsets Eddie Wineland (-935)
6. Joey Beltran (+750) upsets Rolles Gracie (-1500)
5. T.J. Dillashaw (+765) upsets Renan Barao (-1250)
4. Will Brooks (+800) upsets Michael Chandler (-1000)
3. Larue Burley (+925) upsets Bubba Jenkins (-1400)
2. Emanuel Newton (+975) upsets Muhammed Lawal (-1175)
1. Rameau Sokoudjou (+1350) upsets Antonio Nogueira (-2300)
I hope I’m not the only one.
What would a promoter be without his flip-flops? Going back on promises, important issues and fan questions. To put it in the words of the great Luke Thomas, Dana is responsible for the worst kind of promotional malpractice. Starting off with his promise that PPV prices will never rise and then going back on that promise giving the most eloquent answer of ”Cuz” when asked why they would do this around christmas and new year when people are at their most broke. Its a funny comparison when you think about it considering in the same interview Dana claimed the economy is not as good as the politicians would have you believe.
Then comes the promise of title shots. Lyoto Machida is a guy who has earned numerous title shots over the last couple of years but has found himself falling short because of bad circumstance. Mostly the circumstance that Dana is full of shit and gave the shot to Chael instead along with a season of TUF, because you know, balls speak louder than wins. He earned another title shot with a win over Hendo but I guess that one wasnt impressive enough to get a shot over the closest contender who is still without a win in the top 10 of the Light Heavyweight division.
The bad event promises. Ohhhhh the butthurt over the bad event promises. Lets face it, UFC 149 was the worst event we have ever seen. I mean jesus talk about a cure for insomnia. It was the UFC’s first event in Calgary, Canada and the fans who broke all sorts of records for gate attendance were obviously pissed when the event they got was so shit it even caused Dana to promise they will return to Calgary with a sick event and spoiled card and promised the UFC fans watching at home they will be rewarded with something special for their loyalty. The buyers of 149 and people of Calgary are still waiting for that return. Also UFC 112, remember that? The event where Anderson Silva refused to engage with Demian Maia for 5 rounds while crowd booed him. Again White promised to make it up to the fans but again failed to deliver on any of his promises.
Ive discussed the biggest flip flops above but heres a quick list of the smaller ones I could recall –
Jones/Silva/GSP/Cain/Aldo/Pettis superfights. People should really just ignore all talk of these. They will never happen. They are simply a tool to get people excited for fights. As long as Aldo can make FW comfortably and Jones can make LHW comfortably you wont see any of these fights.
Lets face it, Dana has burned more bridges than all other fight promoters put together. I thought the idea of promoting a fight was to make the fighters look good and make them feel good, not make them feel like shit and fire false accusations around. Just in the past few weeks Dana has been firing accusations of ducking fights at Nate Diaz, Alistair Overeem and anyone else who feels deserved of his ire. Of course he has a long history of these accusations dating back to Tito, then Mark Hunt was ducking JDS, then Aldo was literally terrified of Pettis and of everyone and their mother is ducking the Vitor.
I am not going to get into the burnings of Tito and Randy because people have mixed opinions of those issue but personally these guys are Hall of Famer’s and deserve at least a little respect. Ive never been able to dig up Whites amateur record or anyone confirming it but if popular opinion is anything to go by he has never fought a day in his life, besides the sparring he took part in, in preparation for Tito.
The recent burning of Julianna Pena’s gym publicly is one of my personal favourite Dana moments. A man who has won MMA’s leading man of the year found it in his heart of gold to go on twitter and crucify an up and coming MMA gymwho has provided the UFC with two TUF winners and develops talent for promotions from teenagers. Every word that White spouted against the gym was denied by the coach, fighters present and of course the accused fighter of Penas injury. Anyone reading this who trains will know that accidents happen often in the gym and there is never(usually) a feeling of malice or vengeance after it happens. Unfortunately for Sikjitsu gym Dana White failed to understand this concept and took it into his hands to burn the owners livelihood to the ground. We can only hope that the business is not affected by Whites slanderous remarks.
And the little leaguers and HOF’s are not the only ones to feel the burn. More or less any champion not under the UFC banner is apparently garbage and not worth signing. The chastising of Fedor and Ben Askren in the media has been pathetic. Obviously Fedor had his own agenda and wanted to go his own way but for White it was not enough to simply part ways respectively, he had to burn that bridge publicly, slandering Fedor and then go after him in other ways that we will get to later.
GSP. I dont even know where to start or what to say about this. It is ridiculous. The top and last remaining draw of your company goes out on his sword after trying to bring legitimacy to a title fight shrouded in accusations of fighter TRT use and your response is to publicly humiliate him following a career performance. Then not only did he do that he even went on to say he had nothing to apologise for and only cemented his former statement that the man who helped build the UFC and pay for Danas Ferrarri ”owed the company, the fans and Johnny Hendricks”. Seriously, fuck you Dana.
The last cut is the deepest
They say the first cut is the deepest. Well the cuts just keep on coming and more recently they have been more puzzling than before. Jacob Volkmann was 6-2 (with only a loss to Bobby Green to justify his cutting) is someone you can make a case for having a future in the UFC but with his attitude toward Dana the only thing he was getting was cut the fuck out. Jon Fitch a top 10 Welterweight with the ability to out grapple 90% of a weight class stacked with 87 fighters was cut for reasons unknown. The case has been made that he pissed of UFC brass with his whole likeness rights debate and out grappling young, good looking potential contenders for years. Yushin Okami is the most recent one to face the chopping block and it almost begs belief that he would go. My guess would be that this is some sort of deal between the WSOF and the UFC with WSOF looking to push into other markets and also there are strikers they dont want being out grappled at MW, that they would like to see bang it out for the ratings.
This is a bit of a touchy and delicate subject because the UFC doesnt really discuss it all that much so we kind of have to go on what the fighters and media are reporting about it. I wont go too deep on what sponsorship means to a UFC fighter but here it is gone into in great detail by Ben Fowlkes. To sum it up for the layman or lazy reader the UFC is basically charging sponsors a premium for sponsoring a fighter, a sponsor tax you could say. So if a company would like to sponsor a fighter they have to pay a ridiculous fee to the UFC before they can get their name on an ass or a crotch. Theres been a lot of recent cases of fighters bitching about it, making some kind of political statement, straight up just missing sponsors or having them taken away at the last minute(Mark Hunt, Bigfoot Silva and Cody Mckenzie) or in much bigger news(but not explained) Silva and his Nike deal falling through(at least in the octagon anyway). The sponsorship practices are just another example of the shadiness surrounding the UFC and shoulder shruggin’ nature in their explanation of fighter pay and well being.
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This is really the big issue isnt it. Right now its all we hear about in the MMA media. There isnt really much scientific evidence to do with recovery rates for MMA, ability to cause damage to other men and the relativity associated with your TRT levels and that of a younger man. However this doesnt stop NSAC handing out TUE’s to fighters with questionable reasons for having it. Is it really to be believed that a UFC fighter at the highest level and caliber would have a need for testosteron replacement? Of course this is a question for another day and right now we are only discussing Danas influence on the matter.
This is pretty much Danas biggest flip flopping of them all. He really knows how to sit on the fence at the right moment doesnt he? Well for a start back in August 2012 he was quoted as saying –
“…the bottom line is you don’t need that junk (TRT). If you don’t abuse stuff earlier in your career, you’ll never need to use that kind of junk.”
Then the day after he said –
“Here’s the thing about TRT. It’s absolutely 100% legal. As sports medicine continues to advance, this is one of those things where every guy’s testosterone level starts to drop as they get older and this is basically sports science now where they can bring it back up to a normal level. And I think it’s great, it’s absolutely fair, it’s legal.”
Its a difficult situation, I know, but as fans Dana has a responsibility to us to provide us with the real facts behind usage not just for our own curiosity but also for the safety of the fighters. Flip flopping on issues like title shots are fair enough and the semantics can be argued but the same cannot be argued for something as serious as TRT exemptions. Lets be honest with ourselves for a second, say when Weidman fights Vitor Belfort he catches a heel to the temple that puts him in a coma or (god forbid) paralyses him, what exactly would happen? Media outcry? Change of policy? Doubtful. Outside a death in the octagon it is going to take a whole lot more for anything to change in regards to TRT use. The association of ringside physicians just called for it to be banned for gods sake and Dana couldnt give a flying fuck. Its creating some sick fights and even sicker Knockouts but at what point do we have to say stop? Right now it seems as if there is no point, and that is what gives them real power.
On another note with Vitor Belfort. The UFC has been extra shady in the dealing with him. They are obviously extra careful about their treatmen of him and he hasnt fought in the U.S.A for years. That could be put down to being a big draw in Brazil or it could be put down to that he is being kept away from a commission that is going to test him thoroughly. When called out for this shady practice recently by Kevin Iole Danas response was lets just say…less than cathartic.
This is the real issue isnt it? This is the issue that all the so called MMA journalists avoid, the issue that nobody asks anyone questions about at the scrums because uncle Dana gets pissed and the question that the fans want answered the most. Well to be honest I dont have the answer folks. Nobody does. And that because the answer is a closely guarded secret and the real numbers are again veiled in mystery like a fucking conspiracy theory. Fighters of course have complained again and again about pay most recently Bubba Mcdaniel who claimed to only make 33k last year. Now that is fucking pathetic. I know what you guys are going to say ”well, you know, Bubba McDaniel sucks ass as a fighter he shouldnt be getting paid all that much”, well that would be absolute bullshit. You could look at a shithole soccer league like the SPL(Scottish premier league) and the average player is making more money than a top tier, fighting for the biggest fight promotion in the world fighter? Scott Brown for example plays for Celtic and he is a first team player, but he is a shit player on the grand scheme of things and he is making 20 thousand pounds a week. Youre trying to tell me the biggest fight promotion in the planet with a roster of less than 500 cant afford to keep a fighter with children above the poverty line? Of course again this point can be argued and argued well with Dana logic. But try arguing that logic to me after Dana has finished driving through the streets of Vegas in his ridiculous Ferarri after bragging about blowing millions in one hand at the casino and you really don’t have a case, I’m sorry but you don’t. You cant claim to be bigger than the NFL and Soccer when your fighters are below the poverty line and making less money than a soccer player in one of the worst countries for soccer in the elevated game.